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title: "Episode 142 | Should I Stay or Should I Go?: An Interview with Clay Scroggins"
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# Episode 142 | Should I Stay or Should I Go?: An Interview with Clay Scroggins

Posted by [Jenni Catron](https://podcast.get4sight.com/author/jenni-catron) on Jan 18, 2022 10:16:51 AM

When you think of transition, what comes to mind? Excitement, fear, uncertainty, fun, insecurity, adventure? As we face the variety of transitions that inevitably come along with leadership, we are tasked with leading ourselves and helping others navigate the big questions surrounding transition.

Listen in as Jenni Catron and Clay Scroggins discuss how to determine when it's right to stay and when it's time to move on, and how to lead in the midst of such challenging questions.

 

**About Clay Scroggins:**

Clay Scroggins is the best-selling author of [*How To Lead When You’re Not In Charge*](https://www.amazon.com/How-Lead-When-Youre-Charge/dp/0310531578), and [*How To Lead In A World of Distraction*](https://www.amazon.com/How-Lead-World-Distraction-Turning/dp/0310598699/ref=pd_bxgy_img_1/143-2796049-6515627?pd_rd_w=NMQ8l&pf_rd_p=c64372fa-c41c-422e-990d-9e034f73989b&pf_rd_r=A0FCH33K0F7FSKAKMDPJ&pd_rd_r=f342da77-2275-4901-a8bb-91d8f192fb7f&pd_rd_wg=idFCi&pd_rd_i=0310598699&psc=1). For over two decades he worked at North Point Ministries, starting as a facilities intern (a.k.a. vice president of nothing) and eventually becoming the lead pastor of their largest campus. Clay is now a sought-after leadership speaker, engaging audiences that include the Atlanta Hawks, Mercedes Benz, Chick-fil-A, Federal Reserve Bank, and Terminus. Clay graduated from Georgia Tech with an Industrial Engineering Degree and continued on to acquire a Masters and Doctorate from Dallas Theological Seminary. Clay and his wife, Jenny, have five children and live in Atlanta.

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