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title: Episode 164 | From Building a Church to Building a City An Interview with Mark Batterson
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# Episode 164 | From Building a Church to Building a City An Interview with Mark Batterson

Posted by [Jenni Catron](https://podcast.get4sight.com/author/jenni-catron) on Jun 21, 2022 5:00:00 AM

In today’s society, trying to intentionally lead and grow healthy cultures amidst such polarization and division can bring with it a whole set of nuanced dynamics to navigate all their own. But as leaders we cannot simply ignore the growing tensions of the society we live in. Everyone is eager to have you communicate your position; however, we must learn how to responsibly “exegete culture” for the sake of unity in order that we might better direct those whom we lead and serve to move from an “us vs. them” mentality to one that allows us to: zoom out, celebrate what is going right and enjoy the journey we are all on together.  

In this week's episode, Jenni and Mark Batterson have a conversation about how we can better lead and guide conversations surrounding today’s increasingly intensified culture. Mark Batterson is the lead pastor of [National Community Church](https://theaterchurch.com/) in Washington, DC. Mark holds a Doctor of Ministry degree from Regent University and is the New York Times best-selling author of 19 books. Mark is married to Lora and they live on Capitol Hill with their three children: Parker, Summer, and Josiah.

As leaders we have been given the unique opportunity to communicate a new vision - a third alternative - one of hope and healing through the power of purpose and connection that can shape teams to chase after a shared goal for the sake of building something greater. When we choose to stay humble and stay hungry there’s nothing we can’t accomplish together.

 

 

 

For a next step, we encourage you to REGISTER for the [Culture Conference](https://www.get4sight.com/cultureconference) 2022 hosted by [The 4Sight Group](https://www.get4sight.com/). Culture Conference is a FREE digital conference, taking place Aug 11th that will provide practical talks from today’s top leaders to help you continue to build thriving teams, cultivate inspiring workplaces, and achieve mission. 

 

**Resources:**

[OneNeed.org](https://www.oneneed.org/)

 

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 Topics: [Purpose](https://podcast.get4sight.com/tag/purpose), [Leadership](https://podcast.get4sight.com/tag/leadership), [Culture](https://podcast.get4sight.com/tag/culture), [intentional](https://podcast.get4sight.com/tag/intentional), [Vision](https://podcast.get4sight.com/tag/vision), [connection](https://podcast.get4sight.com/tag/connection)

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