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# 319 | How Leaders Find Clarity and Calling: Insights from Kinsman Founder Peter Ostapko

Posted by [Jenni Catron](https://podcast.get4sight.com/author/jenni-catron) on Dec 9, 2025 8:55:32 PM

# 319 | How Leaders Find Clarity and Calling: Insights from Kinsman Founder Peter Ostapko

In this week’s episode of the *LeadCulture Podcast*, Jenni sits down with [Peter Ostapko](https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterostapko/)—founder of [Kinsman](https://kinsmen.org/) and publisher of [*Kinsman Journal*](https://store.kinsmen.org/shop/p/kinsmen-journal-volume-1?_gl=1*1kg6miw*_ga*MTEwNzIxMjM1Ny4xNzY1MzM0NzIz*_ga_1ZWCHR6WZE*czE3NjUzMzQ3MjIkbzEkZzEkdDE3NjUzMzQ4MDkkajYwJGwwJGgw)—to explore the unexpected paths that shape our leadership journeys. Peter shares the formative moments that sparked his vision, from an early encounter with leadership thought-leader Tim Elmore to a decade spent “successfully drowning” in work that looked great on paper but left him searching for meaning.

Together, Jenni and Peter unpack the tension leaders feel when they know they’re capable, but not yet aligned with their calling. They talk honestly about comparison, courage, identity, and the slow, faithful work of discovering what you’re made to do. Peter brings refreshing transparency about leaving a stable banking career to launch a mission-driven publication—not because it was easy, but because it was right.

If you’ve ever wondered whether you’re “behind,” questioned your purpose, or felt the pull toward something more meaningful, this conversation will meet you where you are. Peter’s story is a reminder that leadership is less about having it all figured out and more about paying attention, staying curious, and taking the next faithful step.

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