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title: "292 | Burnout, Wilderness, and the Way Forward: A Conversation with Scott Savage"
description: Burnout is silently draining your team. Discover why it’s rising now—and how leaders can respond with healthier rhythms, care, and culture.
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# [292 | Burnout, Wilderness, and the Way Forward: A Conversation with Scott Savage](https://podcast.get4sight.com/292-burnout-wilderness-and-the-way-forward-a-conversation-with-scott-savage)

 Written by [Jenni Catron](https://podcast.get4sight.com/author/jenni-catron) | May 13, 2025 9:02:22 PM

# 292 | Burnout, Wilderness, and the Way Forward: A Conversation with Scott Savage

Burnout isn’t just a buzzword—it’s a quiet epidemic. Across every industry, leaders are exhausted, teams are stretched thin, and emotional resilience is wearing down. And it’s not just happening *out there*. It’s happening to *us*—in boardrooms, church offices, classrooms, and Zoom calls.

That’s why we’re revisiting one of our most timely and needed conversations: **Scott Savage’s raw and hope-filled journey through burnout, wilderness seasons, and the rhythms that restore us.**

Scott, a pastor and writer, shares what *really* happens when a leader hits the wall—and how to recover with grace, intention, and new resolve. If you’re feeling the pressure (or know someone who is), this episode is essential listening.

##### **Why this episode matters now:**

New research shows:

- Burnout is now one of the top three reasons employees leave organizations (Gallup, 2024).
- Emotional exhaustion is *contagious*—leaders who aren’t well unintentionally wear out their teams.
- Leaders who build in recovery rhythms like sabbaticals lead more engaged, resilient, and loyal teams.

**What you'll take away:**

- What burnout really feels like—and why it often creeps in slowly
- How to reframe a “wilderness season” from something to escape into something that transforms
- The leadership power of sabbaticals and sustainable rhythms
- How to lead yourself so you can lead others well
- Practical ways to build a culture that prioritizes health, not just hustle

**Don’t miss this if you’re a leader who:**

- Feels like you’re running on fumes
- Is navigating team disengagement or high turnover
- Wants to build a healthier, more sustainable leadership culture
- Is ready to lead from wholeness, not hustle

 

 

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